With ten years in corporate relationship management at Rabobank Nederland and, before that, many years with the competition, Robin Bargmann, Executive Vice President, Rabobank Nederland Corporate Clients, has been there, seen it, done it. His conclusion: 'We have come a long way in becoming a professional wholesale organisation. But there is so much more to do.' The Word (TW): Ten years ago, in an interview for "What's News"-a predecessor ofthis magazine-you talkedabout Rabobank's poor image in the domestic corporate banking market. What wasyour diagnosis? Robin Bargmann (RB): 'At that time Rabobank had it all - competent people, financial power and a strong network of local member banks. But we were a sleeping giant. Independent surveys showed that Rabobank's image left a lot to be desired. I think it was mainly a matter of perception, but we lacked the self-confidence to leverage on our strong points.' TW: What were the priorities for improving the situation RB: 'My main concern was our self-confidence. We were applying the so-called "penetrator model" for relationship management. This meant that we focused on the product with the most influence on the customer interface - corporate lending - to develop the customer relationship. Because of our focus on credit, we only spoke to company treasurers, who were focused on credit margins etc. We were talking basis points rather than strategie business issues and therefore unable to position ourselves on an equal footing with other banks. Credit is a strategically important product for the customer, but it is hard to generate sufficiënt return for the bank on credit lending alone.' TW: What didyou do to create more strategie relationships? RB: Two things. Rabobank created a domestically and 20 The Word Robin Bargmann

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