regionol focus didyou know 6 What sNewS Issue 2- March 2001 with them to find creative solutions. Furthermore, in a series of workshops be- ing rolled out in April, relationship, prod uct and risk managers will meet to criti- cally evaluate and "judge" clients, using a standardized Client Relationship Manage ment (CRM) model for all offices. A sinti- lar model has been very helpful in the Americas and Europe. At the same time, we're participating in the global "25% project" which helps us understand where we need to exit and the relevant (cost) conse- quences. I'd like to add though that it's not always a question of cost-cutting, hut also improving earn- ings. Those are two very different things. We've all talked about doing this for a long time. The difference now is that we're really doing it. WNS: How much further will you have to go? CM: Right now, our cliënt base is not to- rally F&A focused, and we're not always working with the "right" clients. But what's key here is that each hub has its own personalitv, trends, and needs. Look ing at focus markets it will always be diffi- cult in urbanized centres like Hong Kong and Singapore to come up with 80% fo cus. You have to find the right combina- tion of the global, regional and hub ap- proach. While Singapore or Hong Kong will not make the 80%, Thailand, Indone- sia, India, and China easily will. I envision a situation where, to achieve that global goal, benchmarks for the various offices are set differentlv. There should always be some leeway to focus on the specific needs of a market. The Rabobank Group is working with Greenpeace to help promote environmentally-friendly practices in the palm oil industry. Currently, Hans I.udo van Mierlo of RN Utrecht, Twan Gcurts of Rabobank Singapore and Chaidir Anwar Sani of Rabobank Jakarta are in discus sion with Greenpeace to dcterminc what role RI can play in promoting sustainable economie developmcnt. WNS: With such diverse markets, how will you ensure they stay in stride with one another? CM: Again, you've got to look at the car- pet and its colours. A kind of Standard is needed - ideally globally, but certainlv re- gionally - on product delivery systems, on the way we communicate, exchange infor- mation, service clients. We talk a lot about IT, but commercial infrastructure is equally impor tant. An integrated infrastruc ture with very efficiënt support systems is key. First, the CRM model is achieving this with its standardized cliënt management template. And with control Rl, we're developing an MIS system based on full doublé count - if a relationship and product man ager from separate offices con- duct a trade finance deal, they both get full recognition for the earnings. At the end of the day what gets done is measured. We have to find ways to en- courage our relationship managers and product managers to work together. WNS: Has that been an issue in your region? CM: Very much so. The current budgeting system, LISA, is a great financial reporting tooi, but it doesn't measure performance on an individual or cliënt level. What we want is to manage data to provide better and more accurate earnings per cliënt and per product. The MIS system is more clear because it collapses F&A and TMI into re lationship management, thus reducing the number of dimensions to two: product and relationship. But the main goal is to increase cooperation between managers. A relationship manager and a product man ager will naturally work together because they're no longer "competing" for one cliënt - they both get recognition. Strengthening ties between colleagues within the region is top priority. WNS: Especially due to the fact that so much business in the region is cross-border. CM: I.ooking at Asia's demographics - the Chinese diaspora for example - cross-bor der investments are much more likely to occur here than in Europe. A Chinese In- donesian who has a medium-size company will often have an enterprise in China. We should be at both ends there, offering service everywhere clients are active. In the past, offices at either end of those trade flows hardly communicated - there was no formal way to do it. With the re cent changes, today's meetings look very different. They're about business, about clients. The current structure allows every- thing to come together and create real re gional projects that fit the global strategy. WNS: You're saying it's important that com- munication channels change. Are there other ways you're building this across the region? CM: Well, first let me say that in the last year we've seen much more - and I mean seriously much more - interaction between GMs. And with great results. The work shops I described before are about strengthening communication, and we've set up a new exchange program for our Asian offices. For example, someone from corporate finance Singapore could switch places with someone in the same position in Hong Kong for a month. The purpose is not only to increase communication, but also to increase the willingness to share in- forntation. If you truly want to learn the business of a colleague in another country, the best way to do that is via on the job training. That gets things done. WNS: What about knowledge-sharing between the regions? CM: So far the information sharing has been open and frank, but in my view too infrequent. In February, we had our first meeting with the regional and global product heads, and a second one is sched- uled for June. Sitting around one table al lows us to discuss and resolve issues which otherwise would take weeks. I want to hear how my colleagues are handling their markets, not least because the regions shouldn't develop independently of each other. That's not our purpose. WNS: Is there a common approach among the regional heads? Do you face similar issues even though you all function in differ ent markets? CM: Yes and no. What I've described as the regional carpet also applies globally. Continental Europe from virtually every angle is very different front Southeast Asia. So 110, the same approach doesn't work everywhere. But yes, let's learn from what's happening in Europe, and apply what we can that's relevant and effective. And, yes, let's try to find investors in Eu rope for Asia's M&A business. In a sense everything I've said about Asia applies globally, in some shape or form. But I think what helps is that there's only five of us - it's a sensible, practical group of peo- ple. We have more than a century of expe- rience between us. And our goal is the same, and that's move the business along quickly, efficiently and creatively. Asia's Christian Mol

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