'A banker must be at the customer's service - 24 hours a day.' executive profile He is almost an institution at Rabobank International. The man who was part of internationalization even before we had an office outside the Netherlands, let alone a comprehensive global network, is leaving the bank. He will pursue what he describes as the second phase of his career elsewhere. We ask Henk Visser why he has taken such a momentous decision at this pivotal point in our development, and what he sees as the highlights of close to 30 years with Rabobank. What's NewS Issue 1 January/February 2000 Why have you chosen to leave the bank now? I did not take this decision lightly. After almost .30 years, 1 saw the letter of intent with DG Bank as the end of one chapter in RI's development and the beginning of a new one. The establishment of the joint venture means a number of my tasks within the executive board and especially with our clients would more appropriately reside with DG-RI. I feit this was a good time to reconsider my role. I had a choice between taking on new tasks or doing something entirely different outside the organization. After a great deal of thought, I decided on the latter course. A lot ofpeople are surprised thatyou have made this decision, especially in light of the fact that you were one of the founding fathers ofUnico. I think the question is a pertinent one. In 1978, 1 was one of the people behind the establishment of Unico. Since then, Unieo has always met with a somewhat 'mixed' reception within Rabobank. But when we took the decision to start a pan-European cooperative umbrella organization, we already envisaged an integrated single financial market in Europe and an ongo- ing cross-border integration of various international companies and institutions. We believed a similar integration would ultimately come to the cooperative banking movement. The question was never 'if', but rather 'when'. So why go now? Every cooperation has its own specific structure. In the enterprise we have under- taken with our German colleagues, there can only be one chairman. For the initial phases of that cooperation, it seems to me self evident that the chairman should come from our partner bank, especially given the size of their domestic organiza tion. I think they have a valid claim to the chairmanship. And given my perception of that situation, I took my own decision. How do you see this new cooperation? Obviously, the future will show how successful it becomes. However, in my view, we are talking about two financial institutions which have the same roots. Their mission is almost identical, and their ambition for the future is practically the same. There has been and there will be a lot of talk about differences in culture. But maybe it is interesting to note here that when I joined Rabobank, they had only just announced the rnerger between the Netherlands' two cooperative movements. Quite frankly, I think there is less difference between DG Bank and Rabobank today than there was between those two 'domestic' organizations. Are you serious? Absolutely. A lot of our people in Rl have significant international experience. The same applies to DG's staff. So, it is much more a cooperation between people who may have different nationalities, but have the same working context and that is international, rather than a pure Quteh/ German approach. When the south and north of the Netherlands joined up, both had a very different orientation. A lot has changed since you joined the bank. I actually started in a department called economie research. Our primary task was supervision. But in 1976, 1 was one of a small team which started to extend the bank's reach to non-cooperative domestic companies. Looking back, I think we were rather successful in breaking away from our image and profile of being a very dontestically oriented financial institution. What prompted that move? The Dutch economy was becoming increasingly cross-border. We wanted to broaden the bank's clientbase by moving into all segments of the economy. And to internationalize in order to service our customers in their activities outside the Netherlands. Our first international move was an office in New York. That was a huge step for Rabobank. No one had ever heard of us, so we had to market the bank on that side of the Atlantic, but we also had to sell the idea at home. How? We decided to organize a seminar. The idea was that we'd bring Dutch clients and US prospects together. As I recall (laughing), the two parties quickly became

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