Man at the top 12 talking heads What's NhwS Issue 10 October 1996 An international private banker and trust specialist working with hammer and nails seems a contradiction in terms.This is a delicate business requiring subtlety, discretion and finesse, yet IPB chief Thomas van Rijckevorsel's propensity for DIY is perhaps not so far-fetched. In the end, both have everything to do with building sound, often intricate structures made to last. Van Rijckevorsel is not only handy with a hammer. 'I enjoy all kinds of do-it-yourself in our home,' he says. 'It's something my wife, Saskia, and I do together. She's extremely good with wall-paper. And with three growing children and the fairly old house we bought recently, there's a lot to do on the decorating side. We've just redone our daughter's room. She's a teenager now and wanted a more grown up room.' The Van Rijckevorsel's have three children, Stephanie, Mare and Willem, the youngest, who was bom in the Channel Islands where the family had moved to set up trust activities for ABN. 'We did quite a lot of island hopping,' Van Rijckevorsel says with his still boyish grin. 'After I finished my civil law studies, I'd joined ABN. Unfortunately, they started me off in the domestic division, which was interesting. I say unfortunate because it soon became clear this wasn't quite what I was looking for. The problem was that at that time shifting from domestic to international was almost impossible. I had to do some pretty fancy foot-work to make the change.' Once he'd got in, the recently married Van Rijckevorsels were soon on the move. 'For the record,' he adds,' I'd like to say to that my wife is probably a better tax lawyer than I am. I learnt by doing, she actually has the theoretic background as she qualified in both civil and tax law. 1'm really grateful that she wants to stay at home to take the lion's share of raising our children. When we went to St Thomas, our first overseas posting, 1 was working night and day because impending legislation had created opportunities for our corporate and trust clients and we were on a tight deadline to get everything in place on time. We loved it there and I can assure you that even though the work was tough, this was anything hut a hardship posting.' From St Thomas, the family went on to the Channel Islands, to Jersey, where Van Rijckevorsel again was involved in trust. Islands have a special attraction for him, not least because he loves sailing. 'It's something I've done all my life,' he says. 'Unfortunately, the kids are not too keen. But you never know, that may change later.' The next move couldn't have been more different. From a small island to land-locked Switzerland. 'Again we had great fun there. Besides a lot of work, we managed to get in a lot of skiing as well,' says Van Rijckevorsel, 'but the kids were growing up and we feit we had to make some serious choices about their education and so on. In that sense, going "home" seemed the right option. And when I was invited to talk to Rabobank about their trust and private banking plans, it seemed the ideal move for us.' Throughout his career, Van Rijckevorsel has been involved in setting up. 'The bank had - and still has - ambitious plans for the development of IPB especially. And because these were future plans, a chance to build up the activities without the limitations of all too rigid structures, I was really enthusiastic to join. The ongoing internationalization gives you room to innovate, to initiate structuring of an ever- expanding organization. What more could you want?' The expansion of IPB - over the past year, its centres of competence in both Switzerland and the Far East have grown dramatically, both in terms of assets under management and people - means Van Rijckevorst tends to spend a lot of time away from home. 'And when 1 get home, it's always full of people, especially young people. The kids have friends in and out all the time. My wife encourages it. If they're home, then we know exactly where they are. But we also have our own friends over a lot - a good dinner with good friends is the best evening I can imagine. 'If you talk about relaxing in general, then I suppose I do the kind of things most people do: movies, I've already mentioned sailing. One thing I did recently was to join a local business club. When you're away from home a lot, and especially when you've recently moved to a new place, you don't have that many social contacts locally. So now I try to get to these meetings which are very informative, but we always end up going to dinner afterwards. That's probably the part I enjoy most. Sitting with these guys and talking about everything and anything: the state of the economy, politics, but also very local issues. It gives you a sense of community.' Van Rijckevorsel admits to a fascination for politics, or rather for politicians. 'Especially the internal workings and machinations behind it. 1 also admit to a love of what can only be described as pulp fiction, the Ken Follet/Wilbur Smith/Jillv Cooper genre. But if I read "serious" books, then they are often biographies of politicians. What intrigues me is what drives them, why they put so much energy into what is usually a badly-paid job. It's probably about ego. The business world is full of egos, as well, so understanding how that works, the mechanisms, is fascinating. How big is my ego? I think it's relatively low key. I haven't really thought about it.^ But off the cuff, I'd say that th^ more egos in a room, the quieter I become. I don't know, you'd have to ask other people for that one...'

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